John Piper and Allahu Akbar

A friend brought these remarks of John Piper to my attention and asked me to respond. I’ve already posted a blog on the topic of God and Genocide, but here are a few thoughts.

I understand that the disciples of John Calvin feel obligated to defend their ism at all costs, but my, what a cost it is when it requires impugning the character of God! God is revealed in Jesus, not genocide. The perfect image of God is Christ, not Calvin’s ism.

What I see here is the distortion of God to supreme and capricious Will in order to make a certain theological system work. As if the landmark verses of the New Testament read…

In the beginning was the Will, and the Will was with God, and the Will was God.

Now abide these three: faith, hope, and will, and the greatest of these is will.

God is will.

Once you reduce all that exists or occurs to God’s will, you have moved out of the Judeo-Christian understanding of God into Voluntarism or even Pantheism. Was Nietzsche right? Is everything ultimately about the Will to Power? In the kind of absolute determinism that John Piper espouses there is no authentic being, no genuine freedom, only the sheer will of God. Which begs a question: Is human drama (and everything else) nothing more than a movie playing in God’s head? Is what we know as life nothing more than God’s dream…or nightmare

Or perhaps it begs a more provocative question…

When the suicide bomber (to use Piper’s example) shouts Allahu Akbar! (God is great!) and detonates his bomb, does John Piper say, “You’ve got a point there”?

But what I really want to say is this…

If your theological system does not allow you to condemn genocide as always morally wrong, please pitch it and embrace the revelation of God found in Jesus Christ! Don’t begin your theology with Greek philosophical categories, begin with Jesus. And the moment your theology of God begins to not resemble Jesus, retrace your steps until you’ve found your mistake. Jesus is the doctrine of God. God didn’t give us a theological system — he gave us Jesus!

And don’t let the Old Testament work you into a corner. You don’t need to defend the Old Testament to the extent that you find it necessary to justify genocide. God forbid! We can simply say this…

The Old Testament is the inspired telling of the story of Israel coming to know their God. Along the way assumptions were made and they didn’t get everything right. Keep reading the Bible until you come to Jesus and then center your reading of all Scripture in the light of Christ.

And finally…

If we make the horrifying claim that God sometimes commands or condones genocide, we deserve all the scorn and ridicule thoughtful skeptics and critics will rightfully heap upon us.

In an age when we are imperiled by a lethal mix of nuclear weapons, terrorism, and fundamentalist religion, anything less than a clear denunciation of all violence in the name of God is egregiously irresponsible.

God is not a murderer.
God does not command murder.
God does not condone murder.

God is like Jesus.
God has always been like Jesus.
There has never been a time when God was not like Jesus.
We haven’t always known this—
But now we do.


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  • Ramarivelo Lalaina

    As if, interpreting the OT allegorically means these things didn’t actually happen. So whenever we are confronted to anything we don’t like in the Bible we “allegorize” it? Quite convenient. You seem to equate acknowledging what the Scriptures says as God-driven (the massacre of the Canaanites, the killing of the Egyptians first-born, the Moral laws in Leviticus) with applying it today as a standard… of course that’s where Jesus kicks in, and his ushering of the “New Covenant”, how His Kingdom is like, how it’s brought forth, etc.

    The Bible isn’t a compilation of God’s attributes, but since the Bible portrays more than one attribute of God, we would better pay attention to what it actually says.

    An example of how the “early Christians” read the Hebrew Scriptures

    8We must not indulge in sexual immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. 1 Cor 10

    Paul goes on to say that these things *happened* for us to not make the same mistake. The writer of Hebrews uses the same argumentation in Hebrews 3

    11 As I swore in my wrath,

    ‘They shall not enter my rest.

    12Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.

    Actual “they”, actual “us”, although the lesson is drawn allegorically, these writers deemed the events to have occurred, and to be purported by God

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  • Derek Vester

    I have just one question that I didn’t see answered below (though it’s entirely possible that I missed it). Is it your belief that Joshua was not told by God to kill everything in, say Jericho?

  • Gabe

    Two Questions:

    1.) Does God have the right to take life however, wherever and whenever He chooses?
    2.) Is the Earth and “all flesh” under a curse because of sin?

  • Beautiful

  • We know Jesus from the Bible and the Bible tells us that God commanded Joshua to exterminate the Canaanites. If you’re picking and choosing which parts of the Bible are acceptable to you, then you’ve made a “Jesus” in your own image and thus you don’t know God at all.

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  • kyle

    You better get in your bible because clearly your not reading it in context . Piper is one of the most sound bible preachers out there . He’s not into your new age garbage, That would be why it doesn’t make sense to you .

  • kyle

    Amen . I’m glad someone on here uses there God given brain and reads the word in context. It’s all about GOD , his glory . Not man. And I know you know this . So Preach it sister in Christ . This new age garbage isn’t cute, and is a joke , and I’m glad you spoke up to it (:

  • kyle

    I’ve looked into it as well , Your tracking down a road that has a lot of truth in it and I believe every believer that is hungry to know about it , God will teach them the true history of the earth and the people on it back then. May God guide you in this one as it’s worth looking into it . Because the bible does talk about it . And the bible isn’t ever wrong . But few church’s teach it . I agree 100% with you post . Look into a guy named trey smith . He’s got a lot of proof that goes into this stuff . God bless you

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